Showing posts with label sovereign. Show all posts
Showing posts with label sovereign. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 5, 2016

Law/sovereign guru's that are teaching the wrong info.

I recently told my facebook wall that I would no longer be posting any law stuff. One of the main reasons is because there is a disconnect within the research community. As with all disconnects it has to do with beliefs, beliefs handed down and never vetted.

The link I am about to provide is filled with errors, and beliefs that are not true. I will post the link, I will then quote some of these false beliefs and tell you why they are wrong.

http://adventuresintosovereignty.org/template-documents-age-of-majority-domicile-by-david-roach/


gives you the right to collect the interest on your “business they created”


 This sounds to be a part of the "redemption" a lot of these researchers are interested in. The story goes that your BC is a bond or such and is worth money, the account is with the treasury.

I have many issues with this "redemption" process, first of all, why does none of the guru's teaching this show up in a lambo? Is it because they have not tapped into their account? Or is it because they have no real clue about any of what they say actually working and hope you will file the paperwork so they can see what works or what does not work? When reading this kind of research, you have to be careful or disinfo will have you spending all your time on something that does not matter. Second problem I have with this, is that we are looking for freedom AKA personal responsibility not handouts from the government, EVEN IF there is an account with tons of funny money in it, I have no want for it, let them losers keep it for all I care. I am trying to get away from these fools not get more benefits from them.


This seems to be a template for a change or declaration of domicile, except upon inspection we see that he changed his domicile from one fiction (us government) to another fiction (state government). One of the main beliefs that is catching researchers up is the belief that state citizens were free men. They never were, and when pressed about this fact, these researchers shut down and wont talk to you. Heck some even kicked me out of their group for daring to question their beliefs. When one of these guru's can not explain their process nor show any results like court video or transcripts, then chances are they are blowing smoke up your ass.

While I think domicile is the key to our freedom, it only works if you use it correctly. Now  to find out if something works, simply look for what does NOT work. we can find out what does not work by searching court cases. Lucky for us, quatloos forum has compiled a bunch of losing arguments by guru's and common folk.

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewforum.php?f=49

also fogbow

http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5


Of course these are both staffed with hardcore belief zombies, they do mean well and provide some important information about what NOT to use.



I keep repeating myself, but only because it appears no one is listening. In order to learn this stuff, we must toss aside what we think we know. This belief that "citizens" were free under any type of government is false, and I challenge ANY guru to prove me wrong and that state citizens were free men.

DO NOT allow your beliefs to affect what you are researching folks, while these guru's provide some good research, it is always best to question everything, including everything I write.

Good luck friends.

Monday, June 27, 2016

Sources on the second amendment.

Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States (1833)

              The next amendment is: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."  {[In Story's Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States (1840), the following two sentences are also added:] One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offence to keep arms, and by substituting a regular army in the stead of a resort to the militia.  The friends of a free government cannot be too watchful, to overcome the dangerous tendency of the public mind to sacrifice, for the sake of mere private convenience, this powerful check upon the designs of ambitious men.}           

  The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject.  The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers.  It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people.  The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.  And yet, though this truth would seem so clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem so undeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burthens, to be rid of all regulations.  How it is practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization, it is difficult to see.  There is certainly no small danger, that indifference may lead to disgust, and disgust to contempt; and thus gradually undermine all the protection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights.

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Thomas Cooley, General Principles of Constitutional Law (1880)

              Section IV. -- The Right to Keep and Bear Arms.            

 The Constitution. -- By the Second Amendment to the Constitution it is declared that, "a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."              

The amendment, like most other provisions in the Constitution, has a history.  It was adopted with some modification and enlargement from the English Bill of Rights of 1688, where it stood as a protest against arbitrary action of the overturned dynasty in disarming the people, and as a pledge of the new rulers that this tyrannical action should cease.  The right declared was meant to be a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers, and as a necessary and efficient means of regaining rights when temporarily overturned by usurpation.              

The Right is General. -- It may be supposed from the phraseology of this provision that the right to keep and bear arms was only guaranteed to the militia; but this would be an interpretation not warranted by the intent.  The militia, as has been elsewhere explained, consists of those persons who, under the law, are liable to the performance of military duty, and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon.  But the law may make provision for the enrolment of all who are fit to perform military duty, or of a small number only, or it may wholly omit to make any provision at all; and if the right were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of this guaranty might be defeated altogether by the action or neglect to act of the government it was meant to hold in check.  The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people, from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear arms, and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose.  But this enables the government to have a well regulated militia; for to bear arms implies something more than the mere keeping; it implies the learning to handle and use them in a way that makes those who keep them ready for their efficient use; in other words, it implies the right to meet for voluntary discipline in arms, observing in doing so the laws of public order.         

    Standing Army. -- A further purpose of this amendment is, to preclude any necessity or reasonable excuse for keeping up a standing army.  A standing army is condemned by the traditions and sentiments of the people, as being as dangerous to the liberties of the people as the general preparation of the people for the defence of their institutions with arms is preservative of them.            
 What Arms may be kept. -- The arms intended by the Constitution are such as are suitable for the general defence of the community against invasion or oppression.


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Five of the states that ratified the Constitution also sent demands for a Bill of Rights to Congress.  All these demands included a right to keep and bear arms.  Here, in relevant part, is their text:

              New Hampshire:  Twelfth[:] Congress shall never disarm any Citizen unless such as are or have been in Actual Rebellion.            

 Virginia:  . . .  Seventeenth, That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well regulated Militia composed of the body of the people trained to arms is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free State.  That standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the Community will admit; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to and governed by the Civil power.              

New York:  . . .  That the People have a right to keep and bear Arms; that a well regulated Militia, including the body of the People capable of bearing Arms, is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free State; That the Militia should not be subject to Martial Law except in time of War, Rebellion or Insurrection.  That Standing Armies in time of Peace are dangerous to Liberty, and ought not to be kept up, except in Cases of necessity; and that at all times, the Military should be under strict Subordination to the civil Power.              

North Carolina:  Almost identical to Virginia demand, but with "the body of the people, trained to arms" instead of "the body of the people trained to arms."           

  Rhode Island:  Almost identical to Virginia demand, but with "the body of the people capable of bearing arms" instead of "the body of the people trained to arms," and with a "militia shall not be subject to martial law" proviso as in New York.


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           Text of the Second Amendment and Related Contemporaneous Provisions

              Second Amendment:  A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.            

 English Bill of Rights:  That the subjects which are protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law (1689).            

 Connecticut:  Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state (1818).            
 Kentucky:  [T]he right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned (1792).              

Massachusetts:  The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence (1780).              
North Carolina:  [T]he people have a right to bear arms, for the defence of the State; and, as standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power (1776).                   

Pennsylvania:  That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination, to, and governed by, the civil power (1776).               The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned (1790).            

 Rhode Island:  The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed (1842).                    
Tennessee:  [T]he freemen of this State have a right to keep and bear arms for their common defence (1796).            

 Vermont:  [T]he people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State -- and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power (1777).                   

Virginia:  That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.


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sources and more info here........  http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC2

and here......  http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/amendII.html

Wednesday, June 1, 2016

Time to educate our self.

By now I am sure you have figured out that education was not what the public school was about, if like me you search for more knowledge, then please enjoy the links here. I will add more as I come across them, feel free to leave any that you may know in the comment section.

http://www.marcandangel.com/2010/11/15/12-dozen-places-to-self-educate-yourself-online/

https://alison.com/

Also remember that google books and google scholar has some good resources as well.

Law books for download....  http://www.freebookcentre.net/Law/Law-Books.html


Early texts, great stuff here.....  http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/texts


Logical fallacies   .....  https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

Early legislative sessions and papers.......... https://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwsp.html


Awesome.........   http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwusing.html

Tuesday, May 24, 2016

Dred Scott

For those of you who do not know, this case was about a slave, whose owner took him to a free state to live and then back into a slave state. The slave thinking that living in a free state made him a free man filed a lawsuit. He lost, and understanding why is important for us to understand how we are ruled today.

(quote from the case below)
thus "[not] a member of the political community formed
(end quote)



Now think about this for a second, this man, Dred Scott, lived, worked, slept, pooped and did everything els...(tharr be more)e a man does, but was not a member of the community. When every other man was, why do you think that was?

STATUS

The word SLAVE is a status given to him by law in order to control him, a "MAN".

Just like STATUS is used to control YOU and ME today. This is easy enough to prove. Here in America, land of justice for ALL, where every law applies to ALL men/women, we find NO LAW applies to ANY MAN/WOMAN.


You are all like WTF is he talking about.

Pick up or google your state or federal statutes, Notice that NO LAW apllies to MEN/WOMEN.

However the laws DO apply to Citizens/Residents/Taxpayers/Employers/Employees
And many more "Statuses" that government calls us by in order to control us.

Most laws apply to "PERSONS"

Well, "PERSONS" are MEN/WOMEN with legal personality, or men with(you guessed it)Statuses.

Get a clue people, shit is going down right in front of your face.

Monday, May 9, 2016

For those who want to understand beliefs more...

Here is some links I dug up for you to start learning just how much beliefs affect you.


http://www.nobeliefs.com/beliefs.htm  START HERE

http://www.2knowmyself.com/how_beliefs_affect_behavior

http://www.positivehealth.com/article/mind-matters/how-our-beliefs-affect-our-lives    --this one is a great read.

http://www.virtualsalt.com/infobias.htm   pay attention to number 7


http://theunboundedspirit.com/how-our-perception-influences-our-beliefs/


Quote from above link...

Belief Perseverance

Research has shown that it is quite difficult to do away with a falsehood once an individual comes up with a rationale for it. An example of this would be when the first copies of bibles created by the newly-invented Gutenberg printing press went on sale, his partner that brought the bibles to a certain town was accused of being a witch, because only by black magic would it have been possible to so perfectly reproduce copies such as the ones he had, and that the printing press must be an instrument of the devil. Individuals will retain their invented explanations for their beliefs because of their ego not willing to surrender to the possibility that they are wrong and would have to shift their paradigm. Even after being thoroughly discredited, a firmly-instilled belief will be very difficult to change. Studies have shown that it is easier to formulate a belief than change a belief already formulated. This can explain why there are so many peculiar beliefs surrounding a myriad of things still today. The more we examine our theories and explain how they might be true, the more closed we become to information that challenges our beliefs. This is important to remember, so that we keep an open mind all the time and welcome different positions of awareness concerning a particular subject rather than keeping rigidly to one particular perception of an issue.


END QUOTE




Bottom line is this folks, you have to forget what you think you know and start all over again. You have government installed beliefs fed to you from birth till death. When you experience things the government does that you think are wrong, or can not understand why or how the government could do something, those are glitches in the freedom program the government installed on your hard drive. Wipe the drive, start over.

Tuesday, May 3, 2016

The problem with education.

The problem with education is that it works exactly how it is supposed to. Modern education as we know it was set up mainly by that great guy Rockefeller. Just such a giver, with a heart of gold. You can find the amount of influence he had here..

http://rockefeller100.org/exhibits/show/education/general_education_board

You can also go further and find out the money he gave to other institutions before he funded the GEB here..

https://archive.org/stream/generaleducation029311mbp/generaleducation029311mbp_djvu.txt

Where we can see he started the university of Chicago.

"Mr. Rockefeller's gifts to the University of Chicago total
$34,702,375.28."


The reason for his giving was not based on his wanting to uplift humanity, but instead to control it.

Woodrow Wilson, from an address to The New York City High School Teachers Association, Jan. 9th, 1909

"Let us go back and distinguish between the two things that we want to do; for we want to do two things in modern society. We want one class of persons to have a liberal education, and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class, of necessity, in every society, to forego the privileges of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks. You cannot train them for both in the time that you have at your disposal. They must make a selection, and you must make a selection. I do not mean to say that in the manual training there must not be an element of liberal training; neither am I hostile to the idea that in the liberal education there should be an element of the manual training. But what I am intent upon is that we should not confuse ourselves with regard to what we are trying to make of the pupils under our instruction. We are either trying to make liberally-educated persons out of them, or we are trying to make skillful servants of society along mechanical lines, or else we do not know what we are trying to do."


 Now notice that he says "we are trying to make skillful SERVANTS....along mechanical lines.


Strange then that the men who started this system were men of industry. But not strange at all when you realize these same men spent the money on research to find out that if you mold peoples beliefs, you control them.

How important are beliefs when it comes to learning?

Take this quote from the legal book "essentials of paralegalism" 4th edition....pg # xv

3. You must force yourself to suspend what you already know about the law in order to be able to absorb (a) that which is new and (b) that which conflicts with your prior knowledge and experience.


To bad they did not put that in the front of every textbook.

None of us can be educated until we realize how our beliefs control information intake, and then toss out the misguided beliefs they use to control us with.

Until next time folks.



            

Friday, April 8, 2016

Right 2 Know wear

 I have decided to start helping educate the masses, and short of billboards, the best thing I can think of is bumper stickers and t-shirts. We need shocking court dicta and quotes that get the point across to the sheep that things are not what they seem.

We also need to assert our rights in a public fashion, as not only to impress upon others how to, but also for evidence of our intent to be free men. With that said, stickers and shirts will be black with white letters, most sizes.

 I will be starting with stickers and starting shirts a couple of weeks from now. Stickers are 3 dollars and shirts are 20 dollars plus S&H, paypal is fine, also you have to email me with your order (patriotdiscussions@gmail.com). I will update the list of stickers and shirts as we go, any special requests can be emailed to me as well. I will also be adding photo's as soon as I can.


STICKERS

1.  I only answer questions that pertain to the reason for the stop.
2. I record all interactions with government agents.
3. NOT a citizen!
4. I travel, I do not drive.
5. Non commercial  Not for hire
6. Citizen=Subject=Slave
7. Freedom does not require Taxes, Fees, Fines, Permits or Licenses



SHIRTS


1.  Unless the defendant can establish that he is not a citizen of the United States, the IRS possesses authority to attempt to determine his federal tax liability." United States of America v. William M. Slater (D. Delaware) 545 F.Supp 179, 182 (1982)


2. “Our schools have been scientifically designed to prevent over-education from happening. The average American [should be] content with their humble role in life, because they’re not tempted to think about any other role.”
-William Torrey Harris, U.S. Commissioner of Education from 1889-1906.


3. "A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..."
Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383

State v. Manuel, 20 NC 122: "the term 'citizen' in the United States, is analogous to the term `subject' in common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government."

4. Supreme Court: US vs. Valentine 288 F. Supp. 957:
"The only absolute and unqualified right of a United States citizen is to residence within the territorial boundaries of the United States."

5. Citizenship is a political status, and may be defined and privilege limited by Congress.
Ex Parte (NG) Fung Sing, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 6, Page 670 (1925)


6. “The most erroneous assumption is to the effect that the aim of public education is to fill the young of the species with knowledge and awaken their intelligence, and so make them fit to discharge the duties of citizenship in an enlightened and independent manner. Nothing could be further from the truth. The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the pretensions of politicians, pedagogues and other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else.”
H.L. Mencken


7.  12 U.S. Code § 411 - Issuance to reserve banks; nature of obligation; redemption

      Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.


8.  5 U.S. Code § 552a - Records maintained on individuals

     (13). The term “Federal personnel” means officers and employees of the Government of the United States, members of the uniformed services (including members of the Reserve Components), individuals entitled to receive immediate or deferred retirement benefits under any retirement program of the Government of the United States (including survivor benefits).


9. 


“In other words, the state is the father and mother of the child and the natural parents are not entitled to custody, except upon the state’s beneficent recognition that natural parents presumably will be the best of its citizens to delegate its custodial powers… ‘The law devolves the custody of infant children upon their parents, not so much upon the ground of natural right in the latter, as because the interests of the children, and the good of the public, will, as a general rule, be thereby promoted.’ “
Chandler v. Whatley, 238 Ala. 206, 208, 189 So. 751, 753 (1939) (quoting Striplin v. Ware, 36 Ala. at 89) (‘ ’).
 
 
 
 
10.   Oliver v halstead 196 va 992

"There is a clear distinction between profit and wages or compensation for labor. Compensation for labor cannot be regarded as profit within the meaning of the law."

Thursday, March 31, 2016

Information or disinformation?

When researching any topic, we not only have to deal with the author's bias but any intentional disinformation as well. Now the information the author gives us may not be known to be disinformation by the author. A lot of times people find information that confirms their beliefs and pass it along without researching anything on the topic.

This happen more often then people think, along with that we also have those in authority always informing us that we HAVE to do something because the law requires it. When that happens to you, how often do you question it? How often do you say "oh the law requires it? what law would that be"?

Now part of the way this fraud has held us down is this, we actually police ourselves. When one of the herd starts to question, the rest move him back into line or at least attempt to. One of the most effective forms of propaganda IMHO is peer pressure. I'm sure we could all remember our days in high school, and wanting to be a part of some group/click. In order to fit in, we changed our hair, our clothes and even our beliefs, all to fit in. Of course this all makes sense because humans are social creatures, and not only crave but NEED the approval and acceptance of our peers. Keeping up with the Jones's, you know what I am talking about.

So how can we fight against misinformation and herd thinking? A hard and fast rule I like to use is to QUESTION EVERYTHING. I do not have beliefs, I have anti-beliefs, I have an idea, I have no concrete unchangeable belief. I have to research everything(that is life structure involved, economics, banking, law, history, etc) that affects my life and the life of my children.

As it stands right now, we give up close to 50% of our income thru taxes, fees, fines, etc. This is freedom? Because the debt is growing ever larger then I take it my kids will have to give up 75% of their wages as a payment to enjoy "freedom"?

You ever get that "wtf did the government just do/say?" I call those moments "glitches in the freedom program". People do not even understand the reasons that do what they do anymore. An example would be gay marriage, gays have always had the righto get married, heck they could of had a friend ordained and married and just witnessed it in their/a family bible. What they could not do was enjoy the state benefits without state permission to marry. However most of the benefits(except for strictly government benefits like SS, etc.) could of been handle thru trusts, contracts, etc.

When new churches are started they incorporate because they want to get tax exempt status from the government. The funny thing is, according to irs regulations they do not have to incorporate or get 501c3 status to be tax exempt.

But no one questions anything ever. We except that this is the way things are, we never look to see how things got this way or even if it is truly supposed to be this way.

Study, Study, Study.

Put down the remote, turn on some music and pick up that book. Remember, knowledge is a lot more sexy then stupidity.

Tuesday, March 22, 2016

Terms of art

In order to help us understand the laws we are reading, we have to understand how they were created. To do that we need to study. Here is a link to a book to help get you started.

https://books.google.com/books?id=4xA9AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Statutes+and+statutory+construction&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitub6hrcnLAhWBeCYKHYD4C4EQ6AEILjAA#v=onepage&q=Statutes%20and%20statutory%20construction&f=false

Statutes and statutory construction(Sutherland 1904).

Now for better understanding we want to go with older books, I have found that the newer the books, the more disinfo inside.

Studying the origins of words help us to understand what they really mean as well. This  http://www.etymonline.com/  is a helpful resource for that.

What exactly ARE terms of art you ask?

In every profession certain terms take on their own definition, apart from that which the majority of society thinks the word might mean. Hence the fact that we have law dictionaries that contain a lot of the same words as Webster's.

Term of Art

A word or phrase that has special meaning in a particular context.

A term of art is a word or phrase that has a particular meaning. Terms of art abound in the law. For example, the phrase double jeopardy can be used in common parlance to describe any situation that poses two risks. In the law, Double Jeopardy refers specifically to an impermissible second trial of a defendant for the same offense that gave rise to the first trial.


Now for the definition of the word "TERM"

The reason for this definition is to help you understand how they define words that mean something different then what you think.

Irs section 7701 is the definitions page, notice that they do not define "words", they define "terms".


Term

An expression, word, or phrase that has a fixed and known meaning in a particular art, science, or profession. A specified period of time.


Now to understand it even better, we must look to the rules of statutory construction to see what is happening.

here is two links for you to go over to help you understand how it all works...

http://thinkorbebeaten.com/Read/2001%20PDF%20-%20TERMS%20not%20WORDS%20-%20The%20Informer.pdf

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-589.pdf


Now looking at irs definitions page 7701.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7701

The first thing you should notice is that they are defining TERMS and not WORDS.


(9) United States
The term “United States” when used in a geographical sense includes only the States and the District of Columbia.

Ok so you say this seems pretty plain, the states and dc. But what is a state?


(10) State
The term “State” shall be construed to include the District of Columbia, where such construction is necessary to carry out provisions of this title.

So by this definition, the term states mean dc only.

How so you say?

First it is the TERM state and not the WORD state.
Second, while the word include is a word of expansion, rules of statutory interpretation limit that expansion to words of the same class as those written.

So when we look in federal law and see that the "state" includes dc, territories,etc then that is what the word can only mean. so state means a federal territory.

Congress changed the word state in 1864, Thomas Clark's " purging America of the matrix" has a more through run down on that.

https://archive.org/details/PurgingAmericaOfTheMatrix


We are also given clues to this when we look thru history, for example the 1868 North Carolina inauguration speech....

In the midst of the progress of these events we are astounded by a proposition,
originated by North Carolinians, and brought before Congress under auspices calculated
to alarm us, that North Carolina, one of the original thirteen, is no longer a State, but a
territory of the United States.

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-TXLvIrf1vlJQ5pYQ/1868%20Inaugural%20Speech%20of%20Governor%20Worth_djvu.txt


Words mean everything in law, who can forget Clinton's "depends on what "is" means"?

Study hard folks.


 

Wednesday, March 16, 2016

What is this guy talking about?

I know some of the visitors to my blog are new to some of the information I have presented them. One of the main things people have a hard time wrapping their head around is when I say "outside of society". I hope to clear that up with this post here.

Society is make believe, we created it to serve our purpose, it does not exist without us. Imagine if you will the state you lived in, what if all the buildings vanished? The state would still exist, we would just rebuild. Now imagine if all the people vanished, then the state would be gone.

The legal definition of "state" is people in a general area with defined borders. Now we have to remember that the borders are imaginary as well. If you drive to your state line there is no line in the earth.

Now some people do not believe there is a social contract, but that is false. There has been a social contract for every society known to man. It would be impossible to form a society without the members binding themselves together. How would the group makes rules and enforce them if no one was under obligation to perform?

Now you say, "but I was born into this society, I had no choice". Sadly you would be mistaken. While it is true that while you are a minor you take on the citizenship of the place you were born or your parents citizenship, when you reach the age of majority staying in your birth country and accepting benefits for those members of that society is your consent to the social contract.

Now when we enter society we give up our natural rights for civil rights, what rights we give up depends upon the society we live in or create. China's citizens have different civil rights then us here, but make no mistake, both citizens outside of their legal "society" have the same natural rights.

Americans are not the only men and women with rights no matter what daddy government told you. Natural rights are rights that you would have if alone on an island, anything after that could be considered a civil right, granted and regulated by law. All of the bill of rights are civil rights, not existing outside of society, but some mimic natural rights. The second amendment mimics the right to defend yourself with whatever means necessary. Freedom of speech is of course a natural right, but members of society have allowed the regulation of it, and the licensing(FCC)of it.

So remember, ANY and EVERY society has obligations and loss of natural rights for civil rights, it is the only way society can work. And while I myself do not need to be governed, there are a host of folks out there who need big government and then some.


If someone has questions feel free to leave a comment or email @ patriotdiscussions@gmail.com

Monday, March 14, 2016

Outside of society, why most legal researchers are mistaken.

Doing the type of research I am doing, runs me across the whole spectrum of folks at different stages of their learning. While I do thank them for being brave enough to open their mind to questions, most of them still have this base belief that citizens of the states were free.

This is just not the case at all. When a free man enters into a society, be it a state or national government, he gives up his rights for privileges and immunities. These are also known by the term civil rights, the term civil meaning from the government.

For us we have to look no further then article 4 of the articles of confederation,

 Article IV.  The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different states in this union, the free inhabitants of each of these states, paupers, vagabonds and fugitives from Justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free citizens in the several states; and the people of each state shall have free ingress and regress to and from any other state, and shall enjoy therein all the privileges of trade and commerce, subject to the same duties, impositions and restrictions as the inhabitants thereof respectively, provided that such restrictions shall not extend so far as to prevent the removal of property imported into any state, to any other State of which the Owner is an inhabitant; provided also that no imposition, duties or restriction shall be laid by any state, on the property of the united states, or either of them.



Notice in the second sentence that the free inhabitants are excepted from being entitled to the same privileges and immunities that free citizens(oxymoron) are. This is legally sound as people not in society do not have the same political rights and civil rights as members of that society.

Man is only free in nature, trying to say you are a state citizen or state national, or are domiciled in the Texas republic is not going to make you free. Why you ask?  Well because you are just switching your allegiance to another Fiction society. And in any society we find members split up into classes called statuses ( Hoebel "man in the primitive world"    https://archive.org/details/maninprimitivewo00inhoeb  )




These statuses are used today in our own system of law, for example the word "person" is a status.

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/P/Person.aspx

A person is a man with a status, a man with no status or  no legal personality is NOT a person. To confirm that our governments system of law does not apply to free men, just look thru the law nd fnd ANY statute that mentions MAN. The only thing you will find is that ALL law deals with PERSON.

Even as a state citizen before the 14th amendment there was laws passed and enforced against state citizens by their respective governments. The citizens of the state were members of the body politic/corporate of the state and thus OBLIGATED to obey the laws.

Remember that free men and women do not need a government to rule over them.

One of the quotes they like to use states that the sovereign power came to the people, but they had no one to govern but themselves.

The reason they had no one to govern is because it is impossible to govern someone who does not have to listen to you because you can not punish him for not listening.

I hope this helps clear this up for some of you, and keeps you from going to jail.

Friday, March 11, 2016

Common misconceptions that distort our view.

 You have heard me talk about the power that beliefs have over us, but what beliefs do we hold that help distort reality for us? What part of our reality is not real? Below I will list some of the most commonly held beliefs of americans that are false.

1. That citizens are free
2. They were born in the united states(most are not)
3. That they live in the united states(most do not)
4. That the constitution gives or protects rights for anyone but federal citizens.
5. That the bill of rights is the unalienable rights Jefferson spoke of in the declaration.
6. That you have to be a citizen because you live here.
7. That they own private property
8. That federal reserve notes are money
9. That banks loan money
10. That voting will fix a system that is not broke(just your understanding of it).
11. That domicile is a geographical status instead of a political one.
12. That the government is the publics servant.
13. They think they understand what rights are, based off what the government told them about the bill of rights.

I could go on, but these right here are some of the biggest beliefs americans hold that are all 100% false. Most of the information to debunk these beliefs are right on this blog, the others are easily found online after you tame the confirmation bias.

Monday, February 29, 2016

The power of beliefs

Most information stays hidden to us for one reason, BELIEFS.

Beliefs control EVERY aspect of our lives, from what we eat, think and do, as well as act as a filter for any new information coming to us. If some new information comes to us that goes against what we believe, our mind dismisses it as false, even if it is our belief that is false and not the new information.

The suppression of information on the internet is rampant, I am a member of a few boards that just outright shut you down if your beliefs go against theirs, and these are PATRIOT communities mind you. Moderator by people that have little understanding of the topics discussed, but ego's that confirm that they are always right, no matter their education level.

Here is a quote from a moderator of one of those sites.....

[quote]
Seriously.. Why do you even post here? Is it just to be a pain in the ass? Your views and beliefs are not welcome and will continue to be removed.[/quote]

My beliefs(which is weird since I tend not to have beliefs) are not welcome because they go against their beliefs. This is the open minded patriot community that calls most sheep because they can not see the government corruption.

Pot meet kettle.


No one wants to admit that they are not intelligent, even though very few people are. Intelligent people do not shy away from or block others beliefs because they go against theirs, they refute them with intelligent and fact driven debate.

Sadly we were never taught how to think in the public school system, as thinking citizens are counter productive to the ruling elite. I mean you don't really think john d wreck-a-feller was donating all that money to education to help his soon to be competition do you?

The first step to learning ANY truth is to first understand how your mind works and how you process information. After that things will fall into place faster then you can imagine.

Tuesday, January 12, 2016

Lets talk taxes!!!

Starting off today with a link for you to go over.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a1_8_1.html

And some quotes to help you understand better.


...the Court has frequently held that domicile or residence, more substantial than mere presence in transit or sojourn, is an adequate basis for taxation, including income, property, and death taxes. Since the Fourteenth Amendment makes one a citizen of the state wherein he resides, the fact of residence creates universally reciprocal duties of protection by the state and of allegiance and support by the citizen. The latter obviously includes a duty to pay taxes, and their nature and measure is largely a political matter. Of course, the situs of property may tax it regardless of the citizenship, domicile, or residence of the owner, the most obvious illustration being a tax on realty laid by the state in which the realty is located."

[Miller Brothers Co. v. Maryland, 347 U.S. 340 (1954)]


The most telling part (in bold) informs us that our "residence" in their political jurisdiction (not geographical location, see social contract, domicile) is what subjects us to these reciprocal duties of taxation.


Lets get some more quotes in here.....


Accordingly, when returns were filed in Mrs. Morse's name declaring income to her for 1944 and 1945, and making her potentially liable for the tax due on that income, she became a taxpayer within the meaning of the Internal Revenue Code

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16882766403791680804&q=morse+v+us+494+f2d+876,880&hl=en&as_sdt=40003



Taxes are voluntary, and when we file returns we agree to be taxpayers, as this case states.


More cases so you can see more of their reasoning........


"The Sixteenth Amendment, although referred to in argument, has no real bearing and may be put out of view. As pointed out in recent decisions, it does not extend the taxing power to new or excepted subjects..."

U.S. Supreme Court, Peck v. Lowe, 247 U.S. 165 (1918);


Who are the excepted subjects? Why they are the non resident aliens of course. The federal government can not tax subjects that are not theirs UNLESS there is a nexus between the foreign subject and a trade or business within the united states. They do this thru the "minimum contact doctrine".
https://law.wustl.edu/sba/firstyearoutlines/civilprocedure/kim/Kim-Civpro2-sp07.pdf


Lets move on........


"[T]he settled doctrine is that the Sixteenth Amendment confers no power upon Congress to define and tax as income without apportionment something which theretofore could not have been properly regarded as income."

U.S. Supreme Court, Taft v. Bowers, 278 US 470, 481 (1929).

This is saying that if it was not considered Income before the amendment, then it was not considered "income" after the amendment.

Now, as to what the definition of income is.....



In Stratton's Independence v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399, 400; 34 S.Ct. 136 (1913) the Supreme Court stated:
 
"Income may be defined as the gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined."
 
 
and
 
" . . . And, however the operation shall be described, the transaction is indubitably 'business' within the fair meaning of the act of 1909; and the gains derived from it are properly and strictly the income from that business; for "income" may be defined as the gains derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined, combined operations and here we have of capital and labor." Id at p. 415
                                                                                    (emphasis added)
 
            Five years later, the Supreme Court in Doyle v. Mitchell Brothers Co., 247 U.S. 179, 38 S.Ct. 467 (1918), states:
 
"Yet it is plain, we think, that by the true intent and meaning of the act the entire proceeds of a mere conversion of capital assets were not to be treated as income. Whatever difficulty there may be about a precise and scientific definition of "income," it imports, as used here, something entirely distinct from principal or capital either as a subject of taxation or as a measure of the tax; conveying rather the idea of gain or increase arising from corporate activities. As was said in Stratton's Independence v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399, 415: 'Income may be defined as the gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined.'" Id at 184-5
 
                                                                                        (emphasis added)

The Court held that:
 
". . . Income may be defined as the gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined," provided it be understood to include profit gained through a sale or conversion of capital assets, to which it was applied in the Doyle case (pp. 183, 185)."
 
"Brief as it is, it indicates the characteristic and distinguishing attribute of income essential for a correct solution of the present controversy. The Government, although basing its argument upon the definition as quoted, placed chief emphasis upon the word "gain," which was extended to include a variety of meanings; while the significance of the next three words was either overlooked or misconceived. "Derived — from — capital;" — "the gain — derived — from — capital," etc. Here we have the essential matter: not a gain accruing to capital, not a growth or increment of value in the investment; but a gain, a profit, something of exchangeable value proceeding from the property, severed from the capital however invested or employed, and coming in, being "derived," that is, received or drawn by the recipient (the taxpayer) for his separate use, benefit and disposal; — that is income derived from property. Nothing else answers the description." Id at 207
                                    (italics the Court's, bold emphasis added)
 
 
 
 
 

Whether Eisner v. Macomber or Glenshaw Glass, the measure of income is in the GAIN realized.
 
            There is no doubt that had the government contended that all of the treble damage award in Glenshaw was income, the Court would have rejected such a position. Likewise, if the government were to contend that a widget shop owner could only deduct his shop expenses, but not his cost of goods, from his gross revenue, the Court would not stand for that, either, because that would not only be a tax on the income (gain or profit), but on the capital, as well.
 
            Gain or profit is, without question, that portion of monies received that is above and beyond what was given up, either in property or expense, in order to receive those funds. Gross revenue less cost and overhead equals profit or gain—income. Neither the Court nor the government gave a thought to whether the compensatory damages were income, having backed those compensated damages out of the equation to begin with. Given the understanding, then, that in order to be income there must first be a gain, or profit, we are prepared to examine whether wages, salaries and fees personally earned (hereinafter referred to collectively as "wages" in the interest of brevity), are income within the meaning of the Constitution.
 
            The Code defines gross income as "income from . . . compensation for services". Since income is gain, profit, then that definition is actually "that portion of compensation for services that is gain or profit." The government's contention is that the gain or profit is everything received for compensation for services, thus with respect to wages the government contends that gross revenue and gross income are the same. Wages are the only revenue that the government treats as equivalent to income.
 
            A tax on gross revenue as opposed to net gain is not an income tax, but a tax on both capital and income. State Tax on R. Gross Receipts, 15 Wall. 284, 21 L. Ed. 164; Philadelphia & S. Mail S. S. Co. v. Pennsylvania, 122 U.S. 326, 30 L. Ed. 1200; Maine v. Grand Trunk R. Co., 142 U.S. 217, 35 L. Ed. 994; and since a tax on gross revenue is taxing both income and capital, insofar as the tax on capital is concerned it is not indirect nor is it 'exempt' from the requirement of apportionment.
 
            The problem with wages is that, unlike every other form of "income" described in the code, the government does not permit the wage-earner to back out what he has given up in order to receive those wages. It has been established that a man's labor is his property, the capital. Thus wages are the purchase price for that property. Any other exchange of property for money must generate a profit before it is considered income, so on what basis does the government contend that all of the money exchanged for his property must be and is profit or gain?
 
 
 

The obvious conflict in the government's assessment of wages as having been paid for nothing is that if that is the case, then the wages are gratuities, gifts, not "income". The government cannot have it both ways, to state that the wage-earner on the one hand realized earnings, or income, but on the other hand received something for nothing, a purely gratuitous gift, is nonsense.
 
            If we attempt to imagine the most "worthless" employment possible, one that required the absolute least amount of expenditure of effort and no knowledge or skill, we would still have to admit that no matter how much or how little such an employment paid, the employee is not paid for nothing. A night watchman, whose only requirement is that he remain in the premises overnight, is still giving up something for his wages. He is not being paid for nothing in exchange.

 
 
Example 1: Gains on Capital
 
            Joe places $100,000 in a certificate of deposit earning 6% per annum. Joe gave up his $100,000 for a year and at the end of the year he received $106,000 of which only $6,000 would be income as defined by the act. Joe still has his original $100,000 and can 'rent' it out again for another year, but he pays taxes only on the $6,000 gain.
 
Example 2: Gains on Sales
 
            Tom buys a widget for $1 and sells it for $2. Tom gave up $1 in order to receive $2, but only the additional $1 is considered income. Tom still has his dollar back and can purchase another widget to sell, but he pays taxes only on the $1 gain
 
 
Example 3: Gains on Labor
 
            Bob pays Bill $50 to unplug Mrs. Haversham's drain for which Bob charges Mrs. Haversham $75. Bob gave up $50 in order to receive $75, but only $25 is considered income, his realized gain of $25 on Bill's labor. Bob still has his original $50 that he can use to purchase more labor that he can sell for profit, but he pays taxes only on the $25 gain.
 
            But what about Bill's $50?  What has Bill given up? Nothing?  Bill gave up a day out of his life, he expended his effort and skill, employed the use of his working tools. Bill no longer has his day or his labor, both are spent. He cannot, even with every penny of his $50, buy another day or recover the effort he expended, yet according to the government, his $50, every bit of it, is profit, gain, accession to wealth and was received in exchange for nothing. What Bill gave up to receive his $50 was not "nothing", it was "'The property which every man has in his own labor, [and] as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. . . .' Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, Bk. I. Chap. 10." Butchers' Union, supra.
 
 
Last couple of quotes came to us from tax freedom dotcom
 
 
As always, question everything, believe nothing, verify, verify, verify.

Allegiance for protection better known as the citizenship contract.

While debating fellow researchers of law, it was attested that citizenship was not a contract. I hope to explain fully that citizenship is a contract, and has always been such. In its basic form it is called allegiance for protection, a classic benefits for obligations contract. This has to do with citizenship of the national government as well as when there were just state citizens as well. Some people think that being citizens of the state means you are free, but it does not, it just means you have a contract with the state instead of the federal government. Here are some quotes to help illustrate what I am talking about.


The United States Supreme Court once drew a parallel between

CITIZENSHIP and membership in an association so well, that it


triggered my analogy to that of joining a Country Club:





  "... Each of the persons associated becomes a member of the

nation formed by the association. He owes it allegiance and

is entitled to its protection. Allegiance and protection are,

in this connection reciprocal obligations. The one is a

compensation or the other; allegiance for protection and

protection for allegiance.





  "For convenience it has been found necessary to give a name to

this membership. The object is to designate by title the

person and the relation he bears to the nation. For this

purpose the words "subject," "inhabitant" and "citizen" have

been used, and the choice between them is sometimes made to

depend upon the form of the Government. Citizen is now more

commonly employed, however, and as it has been considered

better suited to the description of one living under a

Republican Government, it was adopted by nearly all of the

States upon their separation from Great Britain, and was

afterwards adopted in the ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION and in the

Constitution of the United States. When used in this sense it

is understood as conveying the idea of membership of a nation,

and nothing more."

- MINOR VS. HAPPERSETT, 88 U.S. 161, at 166 (1874).

 
 
"Since the 14th Amendment makes one a Citizen of the state where

ever he resides, the fact of residence creates universally


recognized reciprocal duties of protection by the state and of

allegiance and support by the Citizen. The latter obviously

includes a duty to pay taxes, and their nature and measure is

largely a political matter."

- MILLER BROTHERS VS. MARYLAND, 347 U.S. 340, at 345

(1954).
 
 
"In every civilized Country, the individual is BORN to duties

and rights, the duty of allegiance and the right to

protection; and these are correlative obligations, the one the

price of the other, and they constitute the all-sufficient

bond of union between individual and his Country; and the

Country he is born in is, PRIMA FACIE, his Country. In most

countries the old law was broadly laid down that this natural

connection between the individual and his native country was

perpetual; at least, that the tie was indissoluble by the act

of the subject alone..."


  "But that law of the perpetuity of allegiance is now

changed..." [meaning Americans can dissolve the tie whenever

they feel like it, a severance not possible under the old

Britannic rule of Kings.]


  - Edward Bates, United States Attorney General, in

["Citizenship"], 10 Opinions of the Attorney General 382 at

394, [W.H. & O.H. Morrison, Washington (1868)].
 
 
 
 
"This Government... has certainly some power to protect its

own Citizens in their own country. Allegiance and protection


are reciprocal rights."

- CONGRESSIONAL GLOBE, 39th Congress, 1st Session, at page

1757 (1866).
 
 
 
The word CITIZEN appears four times in the 14th Amendment; some

are in reference to Citizens of the United States, and others are


in reference to Citizens of the several States. There is a

Citizenship Clause in the 14th Amendment pertaining to the

benefits [a RIGHT is also frequently a benefit] enjoyed by

Citizens of the States in relationship to the benefits enjoyed by

Citizens of other States. Called the PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES

CLAUSE, this Clause has generated a large volume of Court Cases.


See:

- THE PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES OF CITIZENS IN THE SEVERAL

STATES, 1 Michigan Law Review 286 (1902);


  - Roger Howell in CITIZENSHIP - THE PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES

OF STATE CITIZENSHIP [John Hopkins Press, Baltimore (1918)];


  - Arnold J. Lien in PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES OF CITIZENS

[Columbia University Press, New York (1913)].
 
 
The most predominate ways that an individual can become subject to

the jurisdiction of the United States is by:


1. Violating a law the Government is authorized to prosecute

(counterfeiting, bank robbery, treason, etc.);

2. Be employed by the Federal Government;

3. Apply for its privileges, or accept its benefits;



See generally:


  - John H. Hughes in THE AMERICAN CITIZEN -- HIS RIGHTS AND

DUTIES [Pudney & Russell, New York (1857)];


  - Luella Gettys in THE LAW OF CITIZENSHIP IN THE UNITED

STATES [University of Chicago Press, Chicago (1934)];


  - Albert Brill in TEN LECTURES ON CITIZENSHIP [Ascendancy

Foundation, New York (1938)];


  - David Josiah Brewer in YALE LECTURES ON THE RESPONSIBILITY

OF CITIZENSHIP -- OBLIGATIONS OF CITIZENS [C. Scribner's Sons,

New York (1907)];


  - Imp Charles Beard in AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP [MacMillian, New

York (1921)];


  - Editors, UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP "Rights and Duties of an

American" [American Heritage Foundation, New York (1948)];


  - Nathan S. Shaler in CITIZENSHIP "The Citizen -- A Study of

the Individual and the Government" [A.S. Barnes & Company, New

York (1904)];


  - Melvin Risa in CITIZENSHIP "Theories on the Obligations of

Citizens to the State," Thesis, [University of Pennsylvania,

Philadelphia (1921)];


  - Ansaldo Ceba in CITIZENSHIP "Rights, Duties, and Privileges

of Citizens" [Paine & Burgess, New York (1845)].
 
 
 
As you can see, the courts and you will find history of citizenship agrees that it is a allegiance for protection contract.
 
Remember, to understand citizenship, you must research citizenship first.