Hello folks, patriotdiscussions back to crush some beliefs, hopes and dreams. It seems one of the biggest beliefs in the freedom movement is this "Dejure Republic", a time when men were men and common law ruled, men were free from obligations and statutory law.
This is one of the biggest problems with the freedom movement, they believe something that never was, citizens were never free, not before the civil war, not after it. The only thing the 14th amendment did was change WHO are master was, that is all.
A simple look at a states laws before the 14th amendment will clearly show you that no such "dejure republic" of freemen existed.
The state could not wait to start regulating its new citizens.
take bottom of page 4, top of page 5 here
http://digital.ncdcr.gov/cdm/ref/collection/p16062coll9/id/264934
Notice how anyone who buys land in the county must register it with the sheriff, if not the land is considered "vacant".
They got right to work on the poor laws, you think it was the democrats that placed the poor on the public teet? More like the founders of your great republic states....
http://digitalcommons.law.utulsa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1716&context=tlr
Here is a very extensive list of North Carolina's early laws.
http://ncgovdocs.org/guides/sessionlawslist.htm
I hate to AGAIN break these beliefs down, but a society of free men is not possible, it would be anarchy. Anarchy means no rulers, and free men have no rulers.
This belief of this magical republic will in fact keep you a slave till the day you die.
Now not to worry friends,i know your response is the same as the guy in this video....
https://www.facebook.com/truTVAdamRuinsEverything/videos/10155262613376943/?hc_ref=ARTfVO7Ma_1JY_ukkfOh2K97BhTCz1ayzBjspWomfinaQ3aJmbCJK0iQnLdUgFePcsU&pnref=story
The good news is this, the truth will go on being the truth, it does not care if you think it is true or not. Truth naturally goes thru three stages http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/2012/08/neil-degrasse-tyson-the-3-phases-of-scientific-truth/
Why does truth go thru three stages? Because the mind does not hold as truth something that conflicts with a already held belief. As most truth comes to us as a replacement for an already held truth, it naturally finds friction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Who told you about this Dejure Republic where men were free to not listen to those who governed them? Oh i see, government approved and funded textbooks eh?
Lose this belief or lose any chance you have to become free......THIS is the second step.
Tuesday, August 29, 2017
Wednesday, August 16, 2017
The regulated family unit, mandatory vaccines and why it must be so.
Hello folks, touching base on an important issue for lots of folks. Today a post on one of my vaccine FB groups caught my eye. Of course i don't think it needs to be said that i am anti-vax for a number of reasons, most non vaccine related. The post had to deal with mandatory vaccines, and i wanted to clue everyone into why these WILL be coming, the reasons behind it, and what you can do about it.
As the title suggests, we must start with the family first.
As we all know, or at least should know, the family is the most essential building block of ANY society. It forms the basis of any society you can think of, and as the basis for our society, and promoting the "general welfare" of our society, it is the states number one priority.
Lets look at some cases to see what the courts think or thought about the family unit. Now some of these are old cases, maybe even overturned. We are not writing a legal document however,we are simply looking for their reasoning, aka why they do what they do.
As the title suggests, we must start with the family first.
As we all know, or at least should know, the family is the most essential building block of ANY society. It forms the basis of any society you can think of, and as the basis for our society, and promoting the "general welfare" of our society, it is the states number one priority.
Lets look at some cases to see what the courts think or thought about the family unit. Now some of these are old cases, maybe even overturned. We are not writing a legal document however,we are simply looking for their reasoning, aka why they do what they do.
First, lets visit an Illinois Appellate Court judgment from 1997:
Appellate Court of Illinois, NO. 5-97-0108:
“Marriage is a civil contract to which there are three parties-the husband, the wife and the state.“
Van Koten v. Van Koten. 154 N.E. 146.
Continued…
“…When two people decide to get married, they are required to first procure a license from the State. If they have children of this marriage, they are required by the State to submit their children to certain things, such as school attendance and vaccinations. Furthermore, if at some time in the future the couple decides the marriage is not working, they must petition the State for a divorce. Marriage is a three-party contract between the man, the woman, and the State“
Linneman v. Linneman, 1 Ill. App. 2d 48, 50, 116 N.E.2d 182, 183 (1953), citing Van Koten v. Van Koten, 323 Ill. 323, 326, 154 N.E. 146 (1926).
“The State represents the public interest in the institution of marriage.“
Linneman, 1 Ill. App. 2d at 50, 116 N.E.2d at 183 (1953).
Continued…
“This public interest is what allows the State to intervene in certain situations to protect the interests of members of the family. The State is like a silent partner in the family who is not active in the everyday running of the family but becomes active and exercises its power and authority only when necessary to protect some important interest of family life. Taking all of this into consideration, the question no longer is whether the State has an interest or place in disputes such as the one at bar, but it becomes a question of timing and necessity.“
Also, this case law states…
“The state has a wide range of power for limiting parental freedom and authority in things affecting the child’s welfare… In fact, the entire familial relationship involves the State.”
Prince, 321 U.S. at 167, 64 S.Ct. at 442, 88 L.Ed. 645.
This thinking has "trickled down" to us thanks to government propaganda, and we become a self policing belief zombie like the author of this blog...
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2015/02/the-state-doesnt-own-your-kids-and-neither-do-you.html
look at this gem in the rough that he posted....
Parents are responsible for protecting that interest as best they can, but matters of public health are also something we delegate to the state. The state has a responsibility to protect the interests of not only children but all of its citizens. Preventing disease and stopping epidemics is part of this.
So not only do you have to fight the state, you have these folks out there willing giving shit up. So be afraid friends because sooner or later, mandatory vaccines for the "general welfare, public good, public interest" will be getting forced down your throat.
They will do this in a problem, reaction, solution type of ordeal.
When they pass mandatory vax, if you run, hide, try to fight it out, you will get burned out like at waco, they will label you domestic terrorists and guys like the author of that blog will cheer about it.
What can you do? You are a subject, if you think you are not, try not paying your taxes. As a member of society, you are bound by their rules, thats the deal.
The only way out is to not be a part of their society.
No this does not mean go live in the woods off grid, no this does not mean move to the Congo region.
Society is a fiction, meaning it only exists in our minds. This concept seems strange to you because you think you can see society everywhere around you. Those are just men and women, cars and buildings. Society is the term we give for all of us collectively acting together for common goals.
There is no "state" of anything. Its made up, by us, to describe an area of land we hold power over.
The old ways of thinking are over folks, you have to get on a higher level of critical thinking. Cast aside those beliefs, and hit the books, keep an open mind by not believing ANYTHING. Its ok to just have an idea, or a theory, there is no reason to hold a belief if at all possible.
This is not an easy path friends, its long hours of research and testing theories in discussion. You can not talk of most of your new knowledge, because most folks are to busy "living the dream" to have any interesting in learning something they are not forced to do (unless its a hobby).
The workings of our government are easy to see for me because i see the true nature of how societies begin and work. I fear not the government because i know who i am, what my relationship is to them and my creator (be it God or Nature). The information to help one learn is there, the only problem is the will to learn and the ability to learn (beliefs play a part here).
I have tons of books in my file section of my FB group, and plenty of minds for out of the box discussion as well.
Remember, the more you know, the more you realize that you know nothing.
Tuesday, August 8, 2017
The two roles congress plays.
Hello again, back to talk to you about an important concept in the constitution you might not know about. The two roles congress plays.....
Most folks know that congress is the legislative body for the 50 states, over a limited and enumerated few items mentioned in the constitution.
What they don't know was that congress is ALSO the legislative body over any and all federal territories, over an UNlimited amount of items of which anything is in their power to do.
http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/57/enclave-clause
The constitution does not apply in these federal territories because the constitution is a contract between the STATES and federal government.
To help show you what the difference in governing between a state and a territory, i would invite you to read "why Alaska needs statehood", here is a couple of pictures of the article so you can understand it better.
With terms like "era of neglect", we can see how territories dont have the same standing, nor do the folks in federal territories.
This quote below from a court case goes into a question we all need to ask....
Since Congress legislates in the same forms, and in the same character, in virtue of powers of equal obligation, conferred in the same instrument, when exercising its exclusive powers of legislation as well as when exercising those which are limited, we must inquire whether there be anything in the nature of this exclusive legislation which necessarily confines the operation of the laws made in virtue of this power to the place with a view to which they are made.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/19/264
The question is thus....
When congress makes a law, did they make it as the body for the union states or did they make it as the body for the territories?
As we can see from Alaska's time as a territory, the laws congress can pass can be many or none, over any topic it wishes, only civil rights (bill of rights) apply.
Every state already had a bill of rights in their constitution, and even today rights in my state do not transfer to your state, we can see that in right to carry laws from state to state.
The bill of rights are civil rights state citizens/federal citizens had while in federal areas only. They could be regulated and taken away at the governments wish.
Hence this court case......
"...the first eight amendments have uniformly been held not to be protected from state action by the privilege and immunities clause [of the 14th Amendment]."
Hague v. CIO, 307 US 496, 520
They were held not to be protected because they applied to federal areas only, only after the 14th did congress and the courts incorporate these "natural rights"(really civil rights) onto the states.
Now if congress acting and passing laws for the territories and subjects living in those territories, how do they apply to us?
1. We claim to be us citizens due to a couple of misinformed beliefs.
2. the 14th amendment switched us from state citizens to federal citizens, again to our misunderstandings of the law.
3. after the civil war all the states rewrote their constitutions, swearing allegiance to the federal government, thus making them basically franchises or political subdivisions.
Is destroying someones mailbox a federal offense?
Mailboxes are considered federal property, and federal law (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1705), makes it a crime to vandalize them (or to injure, deface or destroy any mail deposited in them).
https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/tipvandl.htm
You agree that you are a resident in federal territory by using the two letter state code and zip code.
There is so much going on underneath what you think you know, that it boggles the mind, simply because we were not taught how to think critically or rationally.
Most folks know that congress is the legislative body for the 50 states, over a limited and enumerated few items mentioned in the constitution.
What they don't know was that congress is ALSO the legislative body over any and all federal territories, over an UNlimited amount of items of which anything is in their power to do.
http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/57/enclave-clause
The constitution does not apply in these federal territories because the constitution is a contract between the STATES and federal government.
To help show you what the difference in governing between a state and a territory, i would invite you to read "why Alaska needs statehood", here is a couple of pictures of the article so you can understand it better.
With terms like "era of neglect", we can see how territories dont have the same standing, nor do the folks in federal territories.
This quote below from a court case goes into a question we all need to ask....
Since Congress legislates in the same forms, and in the same character, in virtue of powers of equal obligation, conferred in the same instrument, when exercising its exclusive powers of legislation as well as when exercising those which are limited, we must inquire whether there be anything in the nature of this exclusive legislation which necessarily confines the operation of the laws made in virtue of this power to the place with a view to which they are made.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/19/264
The question is thus....
When congress makes a law, did they make it as the body for the union states or did they make it as the body for the territories?
As we can see from Alaska's time as a territory, the laws congress can pass can be many or none, over any topic it wishes, only civil rights (bill of rights) apply.
Every state already had a bill of rights in their constitution, and even today rights in my state do not transfer to your state, we can see that in right to carry laws from state to state.
The bill of rights are civil rights state citizens/federal citizens had while in federal areas only. They could be regulated and taken away at the governments wish.
Hence this court case......
"...the first eight amendments have uniformly been held not to be protected from state action by the privilege and immunities clause [of the 14th Amendment]."
Hague v. CIO, 307 US 496, 520
They were held not to be protected because they applied to federal areas only, only after the 14th did congress and the courts incorporate these "natural rights"(really civil rights) onto the states.
Now if congress acting and passing laws for the territories and subjects living in those territories, how do they apply to us?
1. We claim to be us citizens due to a couple of misinformed beliefs.
2. the 14th amendment switched us from state citizens to federal citizens, again to our misunderstandings of the law.
3. after the civil war all the states rewrote their constitutions, swearing allegiance to the federal government, thus making them basically franchises or political subdivisions.
Is destroying someones mailbox a federal offense?
Mailboxes are considered federal property, and federal law (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1705), makes it a crime to vandalize them (or to injure, deface or destroy any mail deposited in them).
https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/tipvandl.htm
You agree that you are a resident in federal territory by using the two letter state code and zip code.
There is so much going on underneath what you think you know, that it boggles the mind, simply because we were not taught how to think critically or rationally.
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