Tuesday, October 4, 2016

The United States, clearing up the confusion.

Now a LOT of folks think that they were born and live in the United States. This however is wrong, very few of us were born OR live in the United States. First we have to ask, what is the territory of the United States?

Territories of the United States

Portions of the United States that are not within the limits of any state and have not been admitted as states.

---Which makes sense when you consider what the constitution lays out as it's territorial boundaries.---

Art 1 Section 8

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings

As the definition states, portions NOT within the limits of any state. Only federally owned land inside a state(aka army base, etc) would be considered as the United States.

Now as to the District which shall be the seat of our government and it's jurisdiction, how many have heard of the boundary stones? Reading this will be eye opening for most.....  http://www.boundarystones.org/articles/rchs_1897.pdf

Now congress has two jobs, one job it does for the union and is limited by the constitution to only what is mentioned, the second job however is to...

Art 4 Section 3
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States;

--Make all the needful rules and regulations in relation to their territory. What they do not tell us is if the law they are passing is for the union or the territory.

When people were born in Atlanta before the 14th amendment, then they were born in Georgia, however after the 14th amendment, folks born in that same city of Atlanta were considered born in the United States.

What changed?

First thing that changed was the definition of the term "State", they changed the meaning of this term in 1864 to mean, federal territory. All states after the civil war were now political subdivisions or federal territories. This is confirmed by the 1868 North Carolina inauguration speech from Gov. Worth, just read the first few paragraphs. Also now there are many ways to see it including the Zip Code and SS districts, etc.

So now, when you confess to being born in a state, you are really saying that you are born in the United States, and NOT the separate sovereign State that once was.

Example:  (26) “State” means a state of the United States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the United States Virgin Islands, or any territory or insular possession under the jurisdiction of the United States. The term includes an Indian nation or tribe.

This is from a State statute, but you would be hard pressed to tell me which one, because it does not DEFINE State.

Only thru understanding statutory construction can you figure out what this means.

The united states are composed of DC and any land it owns.

Lets run thru an example to help us understand it better.

Lets say I own half the country, and it is called Patland, and you own half the country and you call it Riotland and we decide we need a uniform guidance between our countries and to help each other for defense. We decide to set up a corporation to handle these affairs, we give a part of our land in each country to this new corporation, call it Patriotland. Now, this land is separate from Patland and Riotland, there are different rules for those living and working there, separate from our own countries rules. Being born there would make you a citizen of Patriotland and not a citizen of either country. Same if you were bon in Patland, clearly you are a citizen of Patland and not Riotland, nor could you be a citizen of Patriotland.

The only way they could say that you were born in the United States is because society is a fiction, and not geographically based, but politically based and the "state" is a political subdivision.

Hope this helps....


  1. Not an american but this seems to add to the confusion, not clear anything up! E.G. didn't the states themselves vote to join together thereby becoming united with the federal capital being on donated land, with "corner stones", Washington district of colombia, the first federal land with its own jurisdiction! Wouldn't this mean that the states are united, and send representatives to the federal capital. Which is why it isn't called federal states of america, though it should be!!??

  2. They did vote to join, based on misrepresentation. The states are in contracts, not much different then we are, they as well as us swore allegiance to the federal government. Thus they are a political subdivision or franchise of the federal government.